939. - Chris & Jason

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Visit fm/adchoices All right, this episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Stateside with Kai and Carter, a new podcast from The Guardian. And they are using this podcast to slow down the news and wrestle with the questions that we all have about what's happening in the world. And they do it three times a week. Jason, does that sound familiar to you? We don't really talk about, you know, a lot of international global news items and climates and cultures and sports and things like that. We do talk about fashion and wellness, but for everything else, Kai and Carter are a great place.

All right, so who couldn't use more news? Listen wherever you get your podcast. or watch on YouTube. How long gone? A beautiful Sunday in New York City. The sun is shining. The leaves are green. How many cigarettes did you smoke yesterday? Oh, me, three or four. Cigarette only. Just three or four. Yeah, that's honestly light work for you. I'm glad that you haven't succumbed to the pressures of the Parisian people. Oh, that's a nice triple P there. I have been a prickly Parisian person. You've always been rude. So you've taken that.

You ran with that one. That's what they're the best at over there. Yeah, they're very good at being rude. And they're also very good at accusing you of being rude. And it's like, hello. Because it sounds so good when they say it. How rude. Pot kettle black. Yeah, I'm over here. I'm in the land of uncircumcised dick and butter that's so good. Really good butter here. Yeah, I'm sure I could tell the difference. I'm glad that you're... Honestly. I'm glad that you upgraded your Lime membership. Everything's going... I didn't. No, I'm joking.

Can you tell me more about what they offer? Because I'm considering it. Actually, I don't know what they offer. I don't think it... I think it's like a... i think it's like a uber one situation you know or like a air one membership where you pay a fee to get a discount and the idea is that that the discount uh beats the fee at the end of the year, which I do think encourages use. And also, you know, obviously it's true depending on how much you use it. Encourages use. But just like a gym membership, they hope that you don't use it so it's free money.

Exactly. It also encourages zone two cardio, which we all need more of, don't we, Chris? I did some zone two. Don't worry about me. I was there this morning on my zone two. A rare dub meaning two instead of a W. Who even are we? Yeah, it's funny speaking. of the line bikes um carolyn and i were walking around this morning and they have like the line bikes but they also have like the the bikes that are like competing yeah bike rental companies like in new york you got the city bike and that's about it right yeah that's they've pretty much yeah taken over the market but but in european cities they've got you know this is what the tourists ride and this is what the the plugged in locals ride and it's kind of a nice distinction because it shows like who If you're a driver, who knows the way the city's flowing and working and who is the out-of-towner who I have to look out for because they're riding the big green 300-pound electric motorcycle bicycle thingy?

Or is it the one where it's painted some cool kind of subdued colors? Like a how-long-on-Instagram post? Unfortunately, all of the bikes are ugly. But the thing about Lime... You can truly leave it anywhere. Everything else, you got a dock. That's a pretty big difference. Oh, the dock difference is huge. I mean, the other option is you have your own bike and you carry around a lock. You know, you wear it around your chest like it's fucking San Francisco in 2004. And you're trying to shoot a MASH compilation. But I don't know what else.

Like one Biz Marquis. I'm dealing with some bike stuff right now because they're doing this five borough ride thing today. And every idiot, you know, is out on their bike with a helmet and all their little trinkets to ride. It's like. Dude, what do you do? If you live in New York, why on earth, if you don't have a child, why on earth would you do that? Like I see the guys in the full map spandex with the fucking kit on, clipped in to ride a fourth of the speed they usually ride around five, for what?

Like to fuck up everybody's day? I just don't understand what the point of that is if you live in New York. Like I really don't get it. Like you really want to go to Staten Island? Who gives a shit? I got so excited when you said. When you said I'm dealing with some bicycle-related trauma, I was like, oh, Chris finally up on two wheels. I like it. My brother is getting like me. I'm trying to go. They block off streets for this? Get a life. You wouldn't get it, Chris. Get a life.

The happiness level when I'm on two instead of my two feet, it honestly changed. We were walking around for a couple hours this morning. Sun's poking out. A little breeze. A little sprinkle. It's fine. And then, you know, she went to go link up with Sandy and hit a local cafe. And I was like, cool, I'm going to go home and go to sleep. And then as soon as I hopped on the bicycle and started riding through the city, my frown was turned upside down. Everything, like as soon as I'm, like if I'm walking around, I'm just like, this is stupid.

Well, in Paris, you need that. In Paris, I need anything to turn my frown upside down. I'm saying that... Riding a bike to get around is, I would say, the best, especially in a major metropolitan area, the absolute best way to get around. There's no question that it's the most efficient. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about people getting their bike together to ride slowly in a pack across five boroughs for what purpose, I don't know. This is like fake community building. And then I saw Zoron on fucking New York One when I was on the treadmill.

This little bitch has a tie on, on his bike. Like, bro, dude, we know you're the governor, and I know you're not going to ride all five boroughs, but you can. Come on, man. You can put on a T-shirt. You know what I mean? You can put on your Doss Racist tee. When you're doing the five borough fun run cruise, you're supposed to tie one on before. You're supposed to get the fucking, the Coors lights ripping, and then you just kind of cruise around the city with your woes. You're not supposed to, you know.

Put on the Drake's tie that you got for Christmas. He wishes. You know he's in the skinny suit supply. He's in the skinny suit supply out there fucking making it work. It's going to give Jehovah if he's doing that on a bicycle. It very gives. It gives like, sir, where are you going when you die type questions. I just don't understand. The whole thing is baffling to me. This happens. Because they do city streets, which is a similar thing. It's an inconvenience for everyone. It blocks entire streets. I guess technically it's exercise, but I just don't know.

I'm sure it's for charity maybe. I don't know what the actual point is. But if you're a real bike person, it's crazy to me to participate in that. That's all. You mentioned the community building, and we do gripe about people creating communities that don't really exist in our definition of it. Would you rather these people all find a Discord server about this? Or is this a rare instance where the fake digital community, you would prefer that over this? physical IRL community that encourages... I don't think anyone's actually meeting people. I think you go there with your friend, you go there alone, and you ride your bike through the five boroughs, and you go home and tell your friends on Discord about it, is what I think is happening.

I showed up with no pussy, I left with no pussy. That's the life of a cyclist. Exactly. It's like going out in Bushwick. It's the same shit, man. It's the same shit. Shooters shoot and riders ride. They say, please, no pussy. Please, no. But I, anyway, that's, I'm fine. I was able to, you know, I was able to wake up and watch Olivia Rodrigo on SNL. And I, you know, everything, everything from then has been downhill, Jason. You know how that goes. Oh, okay. So like nothing is living up to what you experienced with the double host duty and musical guest.

Okay. I'm joking. I was going to ask, I was going to ask you is, is Aziz Ansari, I mean, sorry, is, is Zoran Mamdani the second? Indian that is bad at his job. Him and Kash Patel. And these are not my original thoughts. That's a reference to a joke that Aziz made on SNL last night. It's cool to be able to play a character on television just because of your race and that you can bulge your eyes out. It's pretty cool. It's honestly sick. He pretty much got there. Yeah, it's like, all right, get Aziz, put him in a suit.

He's from the same country. He originates from the same country as the guy we're making fun of. He can bulge his eyes and he can read. Let's get him up there. But that's big for Aziz. We also don't 100% know if he's from the same country. That's the dark part. There's seven different countries where we would have been like... Yeah, it works. Well, of course, of course. But I mean, Kash Patel, I think Kash Patel, the thing about Kash Patel is even though he presents as Indian, he is like Florida.

You know what I mean? His love for America has superseded wherever his people actually hail from, which is a very strong thing to be able to do. He's bilingual. He's down low. Down low Florida trail. To be able to be like, I'm so into Brad Paisley that you think I'm from the panhandle, even though I am not, is powerful. I'd like to think that Kash Patel doesn't eat Indian food. Oh, hell no. I'd like to think that he finds it kind of disgusting. No, unless they got... Unless they got Indian food at Five Guys, he ain't eating it.

There ain't no way. Kash Patel hasn't had Indian food in 20 years. The Five Guys biryani blaster meal, they haven't had that on the menu in some time. They've kind of recalibrated away. It wasn't working. But yeah, I saw a tweet this morning that said, welcome back, Aziz. We've been waiting for you. There's nothing wrong with being bad at fingering or whatever it is you got in trouble for. So we got Aziz back on. I mean, he's cold open, bro. He's back. Honestly, it was nice to see. Fingering or whatever.

I mean, honestly, that little welcome back kind of positive message almost did more damage than whatever. whatever he originally did, which was, I'm assuming, take a girl to four horsemen. And have a great convo. I think you're going to get a little kiss. Let me get a kiss. The real problem with the disease thing is the website where the essay was posted, net, no longer on the World Wide Web. So you have to go to the Wayback Machine to look at this. You know what I mean? Luckily, we've got a lot of archivists in our community.

I'm sure we can track that down. Most of our archivists are, unfortunately, it's Comte Garçon and Catherine Hammett, but there are some people that work more in the online space as well. No, no, no. You can buy an NFT of the net. dot com article don't worry no no jason i want to be very clear it's not dot com it's dot net which makes it makes it diabolically worse somehow i love it i love the dot net so much and i love that one day we're all like Wait a minute.

It's okay if it's com. I don't have to spend $790,000 to com. See, I disagree, actually. I com is sort of like... Yeah, that's unkslop that you're trying to spew into my mouth. It's worth it, though. I com, not worth 800 grand. You're going to take this unkslop and you're going to like it, and I say, yes, sir. Bro, if you had xyz or something, you know what I'm saying? Bro, you already know that Squad had info, and I wasn't exactly sure how media... temple works in terms of data transfers i remember they they sent me an invoice for like seven grand one time because you're hosting so many remixes the uh the night where um Daft Punk DJed at Cinespace.

I had the foresight to bring in my little Zoom recorder, the very same one, not the exact one, but same that we record our podcast on. Oh, wow. Plugged that into the little DJ mixer and I recorded the whole thing. Without their consent, I'm sure. You didn't tap on those helmets and ask any questions. You just plugged your shit in. I didn't pay him or give him consent. Ran into the homie Brodinski last night. Shout out to my old homies. You ran into Brodinski? It feels like... france itself like weighing in it you know like i got lucky we'll get into that let me so um i would i went on there and it was like a four hour mix on you know i just put it up there and i was like all these z share media you know it's a pain in the ass i'm just gonna throw it up i can just put it on the website and then it'll drive traffic to them

info you know what i mean of course i mean this is this is how it works you're steve jobs at this point yeah I'm feeling like Wozniak over here. This guy is killing it with the SEO. DJ Woz in the booth. Also, I'm a DJ purist and audiophile, so I can't give him just the cheap little super compressed. This is for the audiophiles. This is a bunch of blacked out guys, redlining MP3 files that were made in 2004. We got to make sure that they have high resolution. So all that is to say, I think like 78,000 people downloaded this mix from my media temple host, whatever.

And they sent me a bill that was like eight grand. And I was like, I'm just going to wait till you guys go out of business. And then they did. Oh, this is huge for me personally. This episode of How I'm Gone. It was brought to you by TaskRabbit. Oh, baby, let me tell you something. This is not a joke. I use TaskRabbit a lot because I can't do anything. You need some art hung? TaskRabbit. You need a fucking something put together? A cabinet? Got to reach that cheese grater on the top shelf?

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That is $15 off your first task using promo code howlong with the TaskRabbit app or at com. This episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by a new podcast from The Guardian stateside with Kai and Carter. This is covering a lot of our bases, Jason. It's trying to slow down. The news and wrestle with the questions we all have about what's happening in the world. And I know you particularly have quite a lot of questions. A lot of questions, but how often? Because we do this podcast three times a week and that's a sweet spot.

How many times do they do? Three times a week. And I have a feeling just based on the platform and these talking points that they're maybe going to be covering different stuff than we do. That's just a guess. The Guardian is not some billionaire owned. They're not afraid to say what they want to say, brother. Yeah, Rupert ain't sniffing around in what journalists Kai Wright and Carter Sherman are up to over there at Stateside. But yeah, listen wherever you get your podcasts. You can watch it on YouTube. It's three times a week.

And who couldn't use more news? Especially when it's not from here, let's say. Give it a listen. Give it a listen. Yeah, I'm not surprised knowing you, what your tactic was to combat that. It was not to lawyer up and figure out a little settlement. I'm glad that you made it out alive, and they didn't. There were so many of those things. Any one of them would have gone out of business. Honestly, whenever I'm driving around the Bay Area, Portland, or Marina del Rey, you see one of those faded, laser-cut media temple stickers on the back of someone's Subaru.

I get a little chuckled to myself. Of course. You made it out. You got it out. That's like when they hit you with the $50,000 medical bill, and you just tell them, you got to find somebody else, but I ain't paying this. You must have got the wrong one today, bitch. Thank you for fixing it. Thanks for piecing my broken body. Thanks for piecing my leg back together. Eventually they'll give up. But I told you the story about me and a few other people we know getting, you know. those threatening letters from from like back grid and those companies that own all the paparazzi photos and you'd get these emails for using a picture of justin bieber on twitter in 2014 and they're like we own that where you owe us twenty thousand dollars and then you have to i had to pay i had to pay somebody not crazy like a thousand bucks but it's like they wouldn't go away and i had a lawyer involved and this has happened to other people we know and they had to pay a lot more It's insane.

Yeah. It's crazy. It's funny. And it's so funny. What if they're like, hey, you cannot use this image unless you retweet us. Then it's totally fine. We will set a lot of court for a retweet. The coolest part is I believe that they won't even, even if it's watermarked. I think you still, which is crazy. Like if you got a watermark, big bro, that's, that's, I mean, that's you either pay or you mark. You don't do both. You can't do both. Exactly. Exactly. But I think it's one of those things that it's one of those, it feels like a phishing scam.

Like it feels fake when you get it. It feels fake. But I think this is like a full time. I mean, I think this is the kind of thing you can make a fortune doing. Cause, cause if you get, there's so many people miss you, you know, illegally quote unquote, using these images that if you, if half of them pay you a thousand dollars, you're making millions. It's like you have a full-time lawyer. This is their only job. I mean, it's a pretty good racket. In 18 months from now, it's just going to be AI clients from BatGrid and AI clients from Dun to Death just quietly fighting nonstop.

You never have to know about it. They never have to know about it. You win some, you lose some. My favorite version of this is the thing in California where if they have to pay you, I can't remember exactly what it is, but legally as a freelancer, they have to pay you within 10 days or something of submitting the invoice. Oh, really? Basically, no one ever pays the invoice in this amount of time, and you can legally sue them and win. And we know people have made quite a lot of money.

Doing that. So you're saying that Cali don't play with the net 30? No, like a lawyer will get in touch and be like, hey, I noticed you've worked with XYZ brands. Like, I know they pay late. Have they paid you late? And you're like, yeah, actually, yeah. All of these giant mall brands have paid me late. Like, let's go after it. You get your 10%. Because it's free bands. It's like, yeah, if this works, it works. If it doesn't, no sweat off my back because I'm not paying the lawyer. You know, he's coming to me.

And also it's guilt-free, robbing from the rich, giving to the poor. You're coming for two. Target and Walmart. You're not coming for Eckhaus Lata. No, no, no. You're not putting the table tennis hat. Callie Meyer out of business. You know what I mean? So it's an interesting, it is though. It's like, there's a lot of this stuff that like, if you just pay attention, you know, there's bread to be made. Unfortunately, we're the little guy in this situation usually. Well, maybe we should, that could be a good how long gone angle for us where we go legal.

Have you or anyone you know been affected by mad happy not paying your net 90 on time? Have you worked with Chinatown Market and they paid you 32 days instead of 30? I know you worked at Rocky's Matcha Pop-Up. Did they pay you? No, Rockies is an ally. I don't want to take their money. No, I'm joking. I'm joking. I don't want to take their green. Okay. I saw recently, I saw an ad yesterday walking around New York wheat pasting for a matcha liqueur that is dropping. And I was literally.

Oh, no. Well, I mean, actually, I'm kind of back. Stopped me in my tracks, though. I literally stopped and was like, am I seeing this correctly? Like, am I reading this correctly? Because, I mean, I feel like matcha's invaded our treats. It's invaded our cups. Like, where does it, is there matcha lube? Is Emily Oberg working on matcha lube? Is there, is there like, what is there matcha hair care? Like, do we have a matcha hold gel? Like a hold, you know what I mean? Like, where does this, where does it stop?

Is it only edible? I guess is my question. Or do you think the scent of matcha could be anything? Oh, well, I mean, like you said, I mean, I'm still laughing about they've invaded our treats. Bro, nothing, I mean, I don't mind. You said a lot of funny stuff after that. That was still funny. I don't mind a matcha treat. But when you said the matcha scent, you just, I mean, because all we're thinking about now, matcha is basically, you know, we're factoring all the senses. So you look at, I mean, the sight of matcha is the biggest selling factor because the flavor is down low.

The vision of it, it doesn't sound very good. The flavor is not so good. The smell is maybe worse than the flavor. But when you're walking around with that Kermit in your cup, people see it. All that is to say, it's one of the only foods where the visual display of it, the status symbol, outweighs the product itself. It's like, this is not enjoyable to me, but I want to get a little kick. I get a little caffeine hit off of people being like... They're drinking something green. That's nice. I think that women drink matcha and carry it around partly because they think it makes them hotter.

They're treating it like an accessory because it's been branded a hot chick beverage because men obviously can't drink it. So if a woman's drinking it, I think it's like, oh, this is like a new bag. You know what I mean? This is an accessory to me. Like, oh, you drink... Your caffeine ritual is brown? Well, it's also like, but the other beverage I would say that says something very different, but it still says something, is when you see somebody with the 32-ounce Dunkin' that's 60% creamer. I think that's the time.

I think that's the only other time when a beverage speaks such volumes in the caffeine space. Like that Coke with lime is a different thing. That's, you know, whatever. Yeah. Oh, that sounds nice right now. The Dunkin' where the coffee is more. creamer and sugar than actual whatever that is like one of the only examples of like america fighting back towards matcha like it would you're right something like that to defeat matcha maybe i should in protest do i become a duncan guy just just out of spite for matcha Can I go that?

Because, you know, when I'm thinking about matcha, we need to talk to a barista. Any baristas, if you work at a five-star coffee place that has to offer matcha and you want to come talk to How Long Gone, let us know because I want to know how annoying it is. We'll blur your voice. We'll, you know, digitize everything. We'll make sure your boss at La Cabra doesn't know. But what is the, how? How awful must it be when you are slammed on a Saturday, lying out the door, and you got to whip out a whisk instead of fucking pulling the cold brew tap?

What a nightmare that must be. They should have upped the salaries for all of these baristas once matcha became something they had to do. It's a totally different task. Maybe it is like a humiliation ritual of like, hey, this matcha, this macadamia matcha is going to be $14.75, but... you're gonna pay for it because you get to watch me in my little cuck whisk, you know, with a line around the corner, people breathing down my neck. You get to watch me have a small panic attack as I, you know, quietly whisk.

But I think places like that, most matcha outlets have sort of batched out their matcha juice. concentrate sure of course but still that's that's so much more that's so much more it is but i think some places well now they got to do the cold foam humiliation ritual that's the ultimate i think some places don't i think you're right but i think other places don't because they want it they want the visual of the wit they they want the customer to see the whisking otherwise it feels it feels like it's it's walmart matcha it's part of the show it's like when you go uh when you go look at the suvs you know in the in the

Other corner of the lot, and they got the little rock thing set up where you get to ride your X5 up. I can go off-road. It's that whole thing. I can go off-road in this G-Wagon. I've never seen anyone do it, but I'm sure you can. I've never seen that. I go bouldering in the Hermes Orange 1990 G-Wagon. That cost me $147,000. Sometimes I go. The desert has rocks, so sometimes I run over some. I bought it off of Simi Hayes. I'm going to do a lot of, I'm going to have to J tree and see if I can, you know, no, this is, this is five personal color.

Like he, he picked the Pantone. So this is, I did get upcharged for this a little bit. He didn't invent it, but he developed it closely with our color specialists. Actually, speaking of coffee, that did remind me that as soon as I immediately touched down in, in Paris, grabbed a little coffee for the car ride, you know, it's an hour to the hotel or whatever from the airport. And then, you know, two, let me get two cold brews from, from Starbucks straight into the, the paper cup, but it's like the recycled paper cup.

So you can kind of feel it disintegrating while you feel it decomposing in your hands. But, but also that's still better than London. When you go and get an ice cough in there, like, Oh, we ran out. We only make four a day like it's their fucking heritage breed pork. It's the only place you can get cold brew in London if it is with my Muslim homies for $25 in Mayfair because they don't drink or at fucking Blank Street. So you choose your poison. You know what I mean? And they're both poison.

I'm kicking it with my bros talking about the new Bentley rims if I have to choose. You know what I mean? If I have to choose. But you got to go to Dreamin' Man. Dreamin' Man is the only good coffee in Paris. It really is the only. It's an unbelievable product. Great pastries. How matcha? e is this place scale of one to ten no no no it's like serious coffee shit i mean you can get matcha of course but it's like serious coffee shit one to ten how matcha e is it i don't think of it like that i'm gonna say five i mean i'm sure they have rocky's matcha do not get me wrong but i'm just saying that it doesn't it doesn't feel matcha first like a lot of places do now i would say so like would me walking around with the dreamin man uniquely shaped plastic cup with the matcha

Inside of it, is that a status symbol of me walking around or do I look like a punter? Actually, I don't know the answer to that question. I think you're going to look like a punter no matter what because no matter how many cigarettes you smoke, you're still distinctly American. Yeah, but I'm the good kind of American that they're interested in, bro. Yeah, that's what you think. I'm still fascinating to them. They're fascinated with getting us out of there. That's what they're fascinated with. They're fascinated with getting your ass back to Charles de Gaulle and on a plane.

I was really curious how I could get you to leave the area that you're in right now. So the Marais, it's not really for you, okay? Just to be clear. No, I think that the – I was joking about how bad the coffee was in Italy and people got mad at me. They're like, oh, no, it's just bad in France. I'm like, no, it's bad in both, guys. Let's keep it 100. Let's not fight. The girls are fighting. No, you can say the girls are fighting. You can say that it's not your favorite, but you can't say it's the best.

It's all subjective, Chris. Well, sure, sure. I know it is, but that's not really how I talk. I mean, just like last night, I went to a place called Freddy's. Just had a little glass of wine and some small nibbles, and I had the house cornichon. Loudest cornichon I've ever had in my life. Take a bite out of that little thing. My eyes are, tears are welling up. It was so loud. I didn't know those could get loud. I didn't know, is it like a fermentation process? Is it just, was there some sort of additional toppings?

I mean, maybe their fermentation got skunked a little bit. Who knows? It was turning into a little fucking cornichon kombucha. You don't think this is on purpose? No, it may be on purpose. Just like some places you're like, you know, the spicy mustard, quote unquote. It's a spectrum of heat levels depending on who you're talking to. I've watched hot ones before. You know the spectrum of all the Scoville scale. I don't need to bore you with those details. It was cool. A thing where I'm like, oh, cornichon in France. We have pickles too.

We have cornichon too. I've had a thousand times, whatever. You eat it and you're like, damn, bro. It really is just different. That is something I never, ever want to eat. Ever. In my life. You're not a pickle hunter? No, pickles are gross. Those are gross. I know they're cuter, you know, in shape. But, well, I'm glad. You know, I like that you go to France and you turn back into, like, a wine guy, you know, because that's sort of the, you know, obviously that's the motherland. When in Rome. So you have no choice.

Yeah, something about, like, I feel like I don't want to drink martinis here. When I'm here, I feel like I want to have wine. I have a glass of champagne, you know, at the beginning. And then, you know. get the wine flowing i don't know why it's just like it's the suit feels better here when it's wine time well yeah i know because it's not being explained to you by a guy in a crop t-shirt with fucking big jeans on when it's like we because in america like we got the red we got the white we want we got the orange which one do you want dumb shit And then it's a real gamble.

But in France, they say the same thing, but it's always all good. Like everything that they've chosen is good and correctly priced. You're telling me when you're sitting on a sidewalk in downtown A. that the guy in Doc Martens isn't serving you the best product you've ever had in your life? Is that what you're trying to say? Yeah, and it costs $20 less per glass, not per bottle, per glass. That's also interesting. Okay, so you're saying it's $25 in A. and it's $5 here in Paris. Wow, I'm finally finding it up.

upside into paris but i can't necessarily participate but i'm glad to know that uh i'm glad to know but i know but i think i think the consumption style is different here where like in la you know have have like two martinis for the night you know you're good have a couple cigs you're good whatever and you kind of pace it out because it's so strong you kind of have to put it on a little iv drip or else you're going to get too too faded but in in paris glass after glass cigarette after cigarette you're you just the you're consuming the same amount of whatever alcohol but you're just doing it on a slow drip throughout the entire night i don't know if they're just more anxious or whatever and they got to keep on smoking no they're alcohol they're alcoholics they're it's they're oh yeah also that part yes their culture also they're not driving home

I think that's a big, I think that's also, it really allows you to get twice as wasted. I mean, New York is the same thing. There's no chance you're ever driving home, so you're getting twisted. Yeah, you never have to do that mental math of like, all right, if I take Forest Lawn and I close one eye, I think I can get her home. My question to you is, Forest Lawn, if I was a cop, why wouldn't I just sit there? It's great for speeding. It's great for speeding. And it's such a direct vein to connect parts of town.

You know how many times I've thought this while driving drunk on that street? If I'm not driving drunk on that street, I am going 30 over the speed limit. As fast as possible. It's so fun to go fast on that street. The Nuremberg track, but not a single time have I seen a cop anywhere hidden or just driving using it. I think it's a common agreement with the residents of LA and the police department that it's like, if you know, you know, like real heads respect forest lawn. You got to take the lawn.

That's on you. That's your business. Do what you got to do over there. You know, I'm not going to pop you for a Dewey or a speeding, but you crashed the fucking Panamera. You know, don't, don't go, don't call 911 either. You got to call your cousin, you know, like if you, all right. So if you crash the whip on forest lawn, you can't call for help, but you got to call your family. You can call somebody else, but you can't use like the municipal, anything that taxpayers fund, you can't call.

Yeah. And I will extend it too. You're whipping the Celica around turn four and you pop a tire. We're not calling AAA. We're calling our Korean cousin to come over with the spare and you're going to do it yourself. Get your hands dirty. Everybody I know would be okay with that deal. I think that is a fair deal. Of course, if you roll the fucking Land Cruiser, we'll get a crane out. I'm not going to make you... you know, gather up 12 of your hunkiest friends to flip it over. My Korean cousin doesn't have access to a crane, unfortunately.

So got to kind of go, got to kind of go above and beyond to get the crane. Well, it's funny because he probably does. You're like, you're not calling the right cousin, bro. You have a lot of cousins. You have a lot of cousins. Your cousin owns the crane company and they're doing quite well. They're doing really well. They found a niche. I was, there's been a lot of Noah Kahan talk this week. I don't know if you're familiar with him. Yeah, this morning, Carolyn said, who is Noah Kahn? And I said, he's kind of like Hozier.

He's like our Hozier a little bit. He's like if Hozier is from Vermont. Yeah. But he's kind of funny on Twitter, which is a surprise. I agree with that. I think if he did How Long Gone, I think he would do well. Just like how Hozier, you're like, oh, motherfucker can kind of talk. He's kind of nice with it. Noah Kahn, but what's interesting is that he's sort of, this record is huge. it's like coming it's like the numbers are crazy it came in number one in the uk and he got a like relatively positive pitchfork review which is Very surprising, I think, for what this is.

I agree. But I can't. Be like Jason Mraz getting an 8.3. I can't really wrap my head around. I need to really listen to it. But I know he was on a Zach Bryan song a while ago, and it was good. But he was just kind of singing whatever. He sang a verse in harmonies. I don't really know what his music sounds like besides the stomp clap hit. This is all very Lumineers core. So that's why I'm a little surprised at the acceptance. I'm always just surprised what gets accepted sometimes.

This does not feel like something that. be this big. He wears overalls and is barefoot and has hair down to his ass that he braids. You know what I mean? He wears pigtails. But he's also good looking enough? No. I mean, he's fine looking. I don't think anyone would call him good looking. I'm saying that from someone that's coming from the same place. Is he giving fuckable? In some photos, yes. In some photos, no. He does have a little... Native American co-worker energy to him. There are definitely chicks that work in Maine for the summer that would love to have sex with this guy.

You know what I mean? But overall, I don't think that's his appeal. Look, he's got his angles. I'm about to... I looked at a lot of photos where he, like you said, he's wearing overalls and his hair is in pig ties and he's doing a song with Elmo. And then I just sent you this photo right now where he's fucking... Jason, that photo is... 15 years old that photo ain't current but i'm saying that means if this man existed at one point looking like that he has had things done to him and his body that will affect the confidence

uh for the rest of his life let me tell you who i mean i mean yeah when when the the chick from your camp that didn't shave her underarms wants to give you top behind the kayaks no sure i mean yeah no bro this guy don't act like he's pulling like that don't do that bro he ain't pulling like i'm just saying he if you if you play music you have a voice that's got some honey in it and you and you looked like that at one point You're beating him off with a patchouli scented stick.

You're beating him off. You just wake up and a Kim Cattrall type is servicing you. No, bro. You're absolutely wrong. This is a chick that wears NAAT sandals and fucking natural fabrics and hasn't washed her. What's a NAAT? Some other Birkenstocks. Hasn't washed her what, Chris? Are you saying her pussy microbiome is not 99.9%? I'm not talking about the 0.1% of biome, bro. You know I'm not talking about that. I would never bring that up here. I'm just saying that I think he was beating him off with a patchouli stick, with a rain stick, but I don't think he was.

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That is Q-U-I-N-C-E dot com slash how long. That'll get you free shipping and 365 day returns. Quince punto com slash how long. I'm talking, it's the kind of chicks that would camp out for a Dave Matthews show. I don't think it's what you're talking about. I don't think it's the girl. For all my Atlanta residents, it's a chick that worked at Junkman's Daughter. They'll know what I mean by that. They'll know what I mean by that. They'll know what I mean by that. That's all. But I'm happy for them. I'm happy that any music that is made by a real person with a guitar is doing this well.

That's all I care about. I don't care if it's for me or not. Every time I see this, I'm happy that it's not John Summit. Is this man the John Summit of folk music? And I'm about to send you an image. Look at the headline of this editorial. It's going to really be... Well, that's the name of his album. It's called Stick Season. That's the name of his album. Yeah, that was the name of his album. That should be a fucking Drake record. But look at this. Stick Season. Yeah, look.

He looks pretty good in these pictures, but it's him with two dogs in the woods, and they're carrying sticks around. It's crazy what this is. It's crazy what this promotes. Yeah. This is Man of the Woods. If a woman sees a guy with two dogs that respect him, his authority. And he can squat. Core health is good. This sounds like you're talking about yourself, but your dogs are a lot smaller than these dogs. I mean, maybe in the subconscious, it's very possible, but that's not what I was shooting for. Actually, honestly, Jason, that picture you sent me where he's got the long hair and the beard is not dissimilar from TJ at Cinespace.

Maybe he's 15 pounds lighter, but I'm just saying. I'm just seeing something here. Okay, I'm honing out. His stick is a Martin. Your stick is a CD Logic case full of French remixes. Period. I'm seeing some. The similarities between Noah Kahn and them jeans are something I never thought I would see, but you've made them very apparent. You've done this to yourself. Damn. Damn. Damn. So if him and I fucked, it would be an Ibanez acoustic guitar. Exactly, exactly. For the true has. It's a purple headstock. It's limited, but it's...

That one's for Morby. Yeah, that's for Morby. Morby's listening. I would love to talk to Morby about Noah Khan. I just don't... Yeah, I'm surprised at the popularity of this, but I am... Again, I'm happy overall, but I'm just wondering what the end game is for this guy. It sounds like a lot of money, success, and fame. There's a Vulture article. Noah Cajon on Olivia Rodrigo's connection to stick season. So this guy's like, all right, Olivia Rodrigo, huge star. I'm just going to write an album as if I was the guy that she was singing about.

And then boom, profit, right? Profit. Olivia had Wiseblood singing backups last night. Yeah, and she had Hillary Clinton on rhythm guitar. Hillary Clinton hates her husband so much, she'll play rhythm guitar for Libra Rodrigo when she's never picked up a guitar in her life. Oh, the chords are easy. I could do two songs. It's actually super easy. It's funny. We were watching it this morning. That's a good bill. We were watching it this morning, and I was like, damn, guitar player on the left kind of looks like Hillary Clinton. And Carolyn had a little laugh.

And then song two comes around, and she's like. Wait a minute. She does look a lot like Hillary Clinton. The joke is true. Let me tell you something. If you're trying to get an all-female band right now, one of them is going to look like Hillary Clinton. It doesn't matter who you are if that's what you're trying to do. Oh, and you want keys too? Yeah, you're going to get a Hillary. I'm sorry. Because I think her band was all, I think shed, yeah, I think full band, all women, which I respect the move, but you're going to get a Hillary in there.

I want to know how come not. all women in her age range you know like when you see the pop star live band performance you see a lot of you know guitar players that are also in their you know early 20s maybe how come she went for some older studio heads she's an old soul isn't she I mean I'm sure she would say that I wonder actually because I think it does it does feel like there's a limited pool of absolute killers and it's not like you need to be a killer to play Liv Rodrigo songs but I feel like I would be Going on looks first and skill second only because, again, this is not extremely complicated music.

Because also, we can just play the backing track and we don't really need to know that you aren't playing those synth lines. We can't see your fingers on the Nord. I bet Olivia makes them play the real shit. I bet she makes them. Oh, absolutely. I bet she wants it to feel real. Look, if I'm going to get a bunch of 41-year-old heifers out here, you're going to have to... There's going to be no mistakes. No, we can't make a mistake. Not on live TV. Not on live TV. The city's getting ready for the Met Gala, Jason.

People are just, people are so mad at Jeff Bezos. It's honestly, the level of hatred for Jeff Bezos is really hitting fever pitch here in Manhattan. Did he become, he became a donor and now people are worried that his stink is on the gala? Yeah, because he's the first bad guy who's given money to go to sit at a table at the Met Gala. I mean, yeah, he's the first one. That's kind of interesting that right after Jeff Bezos makes a sizable donation to the costume board or whatever, two months later, you get the article, hey, we actually have enough money to go independent now all of a sudden.

We've been saving up all the money for the last 10 years, but... Last year we got a nice little bump so we don't need y'all anymore. I think Bezos, look, if your chick wants to go to shit like this and you're Bezos, like happy wife, happy life. I'm going to break off. Let me give you 10. Let me let you hold 10. Costume Institute Gala hold 10. It ain't tricking if you got it. If you're like, damn, imagine buying Condé Nast just for some pussy. And Jeff's like, bet, I'll do it.

You want ATM, Apple car? What do you want? It's actually cheaper than my yacht. So this is working out for me. I don't, I just don't, I mean, people are so mad about it. And like he had a party last night or she had a party last night and it was like, you know, I think people are. It feels like some people are crossing the picket line to go to a Bezos-hosted event. It's like all y'all who went to the Noma pop-up in Silver Lake, and we see you. I just don't know what people...

Obviously, this is not important to any regular person because it's like celebrities getting dressed up. It doesn't feel like real life to most people, but they love to consume the content, obviously. But I just don't know where... This kind of money can only come from a few places. You know what I mean? You got the Sacklers, you got Bezos, and you got Middle East. Pick your poison. Pick your poison. It's all going to be bad. I don't know what your plan is, but it's all going to be bad. We've been talking a lot about balls and ballrooms and them being Trump-coded, Republican-coded.

The left has the gala and the right has the ball. Because the left has the shame, they can't just have a ball. It has to be for something. you know, a charity or something. I would say, I would say balls are often for charity too. Maybe not. I don't know. I think a gala, it, it really has the stink of, you know, donation and, you know, fundraising and a ball seems like more of a, you know, unabashed celebration. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, don't get me started on baby to baby LA's fakest gala.

One of my, one of my, what's that? That baby to, I think it's called baby to baby. That's the one that all the influence, that's the one that all the influencers go to. It's like, it's a... It sounds like a brand of something where I have to buy my niece-in-law, you know, like a new fucking, like, headband for when you're eating Cheerios so they don't spill in the car. It's baby-to-babies. Neoprene is washable. American 501 nonprofit organization that provides diapers, formula, clothing, other basic necessities for children living in poverty. And then you look at the...

But the diapers are made by babies. Unfortunately, it is a baby-to-baby. But it's like Dear Media buys a table. You know what I mean? It's like, it's... It's that vibe. Okay. I can't even begin to describe. It's like a funny, like you see all the influence. Like Chrissy Teigen gets an award at this shit. You know what I mean? It's like that kind of thing. For her work in the baby space. All women listening will know about the Baby to Baby Gala. Okay. All women will know. Ladies, is it hot that I don't know about it?

I mean, yeah, kind of. Can I be a fucking straggit and not know about Baby to Baby? Something to think about. I'm embarrassed to know about it, but here we are. It wouldn't be the first time I'm embarrassed to know something. I wanted to ask you, you're an international traveler. When we were checking into our hotel and got the little room tour, you know, lay of the land, clicker here, whatever. I don't let them do that, but yeah, go ahead. Really? Do you just say, I'm straight? No, get the fuck out of here.

Yeah, I know how to use a hotel room. But some hotel rooms have like a little thing like, oh, just to let you know. you know like for for example you know the little card on the back of the door with like the fire emergency info and like call 9-1-1 don't you you know that that thing that's like plastic on the back of the door that's where the wi-fi password was printed not anywhere on the card or the key card only only that that's the stupidest thing i've ever heard and i'm i'm so that's an example where they're like hey just let you know

the in the wi-fi password is on the back of this what i'm saying to you is you can tell me that at the front desk before when you give me the key you don't need to come into my room and be like here's how the remote control works the real crime that's going on jason is the room service menu being on the tv now at every hotel that shit is so fucking stupid and i don't know because europe loves a q italy especially loves a qr code still yeah and it feels having a print printing a room service menu the amount of money that is spent on that is so I just don't understand what corner we're cutting.

Yeah, I don't want you in my room. I don't want you explaining anything. I can handle my own luggage. I don't want any help. Once I have the key and you have my credit card, don't talk to me again. Okay. Until I need something, of course, until I call down. Yes, of course, Mr. Black. We understand. Yeah, okay. Well, we were getting the tour, and we were in the bathroom, and he goes, this is an Italian-style bathroom. Have you ever heard that? And do you know what he means by that?

There's one unique signifier that the hotel bathroom has. Was the bath mat fake off-white? What makes it Italian? Is there an ashtray next to the toilet? What makes it Italian? Yeah, it was an off-white flannel. Yeah, literally. Is it just hella marble? Okay, the one thing that it had that other hotel bathrooms... don't have typically i've maybe seen it once or twice in my entire life which would be funny if it was an italian style bathroom it had a scale that's i don't think italians weigh themselves i don't think italians know how to count i think they know how to count they have scales that that say the number for you so you don't have to read it good point but i would i like to think that italian people are are more conscious of their weight and their body than you know many other countries maybe not france but i would disagree i would disagree completely the way that i think the thing about italian people stay snatchy yeah but that's not because they're weighing themselves it's because they they like their lifestyle because they have cigarette for dinner yeah like i think it's a lifestyle difference i think it's i'm not gonna buy into the fucking you know maha influencer i eat pasta for a week in italy and i'm skinnier than when i eat

Erwan in LA shit, but there's some truth to that if you grew up there and lived there. Yeah, does it just mean like... the bathroom is sexy and has dark wood or something like that. You can see through. So you're saying to me they said a Thailand style bathroom and the only thing that you're noticing that's different is there's a scale. Yes. There's no other. No. Got a sink. Got a toilet. Got a shower. I was hoping maybe they had the La Marcoso in the bathroom. You know what I mean?

So you could kind of have the espresso going while the shower's heating up or something. There was an Emporio Armani ashtray. No, okay. I just Googled it. AI says an Italian style bathroom is defined by luxurious high quality materials used with minimalist aesthetics. Okay, that's fake. With a focus on creating a spa-like sophisticated durable space. Okay. So it's saying like the shit is baller. It is like a very nice like burgundy colored marble his and her sink. Like it looks nice. So it's saying it's like. baller ingredients, but it's not like this crazy grand Trump ballroom style bathroom where you feel a little...

Being in a hotel room in Paris that has two sinks is a victory in itself because those things are so fucking small. Merci. The room is not huge, but it's perfectly sized. It's some touch both walls if I stretch my arms out. If my wife wasn't here, it would be parfait. Exactly. That's how it always is. I got to upgrade because this bitch got a check bag. She loves it. No full-length mirror is the only problem. I don't know if that's cool. You gay if you worry about that. I like that Italian-style bathroom just means nice.

I think you could just say nice, especially if you're not in Italy. It means quiet luxury. I mean, sure. Whatever. Everybody's a liar. What are we even talking about? What the fuck are you even talking about? Okay, so you were talking about why is the Noah Khan so big, and it was reminding me of the... The geese bots, you know, fabricated following where it's, you know, like this is, why is everyone talking about this? Why are people who are normally not talking about this kind of thing talking about this? And it makes you suspicious of it.

The Young Lean video directed by Emrata's man kind of seems like it's getting the geese bot treatment. Have you noticed this? Haven't watched it. i've avoided it completely okay i don't i mean i'm sure it's cool but the way people that but you're right i mean the no con thing the difference is there's numbers to back it up like the this guy's coming in number one everywhere selling like 400 000 hard copies like that's serious um i think that the that video is the song good i've heard the song isn't good uh it's not for me shout out to sirkin who produced it old another french homie But yeah, it's not my fave.

People have only talked about the video is what I'm trying to say. I haven't heard nothing about the song. And everyone's saying like, why have I seen like 400 tweets from like Silicon Valley Twitter bots talking about how like the movement coach and the choreo work is like groundbreaking. I mean, but it is good, right? Yeah, it's cool looking and it is good. But this is my problem now is that every time something is good and people are talking about it, it's going to be questioned as like who paid the agency to juice this where it's like, well, maybe it's just good.

But I mean, I don't know. It's very similar to the Nepo baby argument. Yeah, yeah. Maybe like, oh, like, well, you know, I do my marketing DIY style, like organic style. Like I do it. But don't people. Like I did it natty. It's like, oh, you're doing performance enhancing marketing or you're not. But I also think that people are. From what I understand as someone who's not, I was never like a young lean head. He's very, very popular. That whole thing is very, much more popular than I even realize. Yeah.

Especially online. He has a rabid following. Yeah, especially online. All over the world. As far as people that this would happen to, he feels pretty likely. Even if they do juice it a little bit. True. The geese thing is less likely than this. You know what I mean? If you really want to break it down. Yeah, and I guess. you know the director having the the emiratic connection and him no dude he's a legend his dad's a legend no it's like a it's he's i mean it's sick like it's cool they did it and i'm sure the video is great and i'll now i'll watch it but i sort of like this is one of those things that i avoided because i was like i don't i don't care about this i've seen too much stuff about it you know what what even no i think it's not like i don't have three minutes i'll tell you that you know i could have i could have i could have made it work um let's talk about spirit airlines yeah

p It's really crazy that that happens so fast. It's like basically like you have a flight tomorrow and you can't take it type shit. Yesterday, or I guess two days ago, Friday, we pulled up to the airport, you know, at like whatever, 2, 3 m. And I looked on my phone and I was like, oh, shit, Spirit Airlines is going to close soon. And I walked in, we were checking our bags. And I was like, are you guys going to throw Spirit Airlines a going away party? And then everyone started laughing.

And then obviously it spread very fast in the airport. But I think everyone experienced every emotion about it and every thought about it. They felt all the spirit feelings in a period of like 12 hours where it normally takes like a week to sort of build out all the jokes and angles and takes around it. I don't think it's a surprise, but I wonder if that opens up the market. I wonder if somebody's going to introduce or really push a new low-cost carrier. to fill that void who's going to jump in the ring for the diffusion line airline that's going to keep everything in check yeah like delta united american could do a diffusion line i'm sure there's like whatever you know one of these like budget european airlines could come to america i just wonder or maybe maybe there isn't maybe the reason spirit's going on business is that the the gap is smaller than we think yeah people are saying that like the reason you know everyone's complaining about airline prices as soon as spirit goes away like the one thing that sort of like affects the the spectrum of pricing, when that goes away, you're going to really see what fucking United and Delta can do with the fucking, with the price tag.

You know what I mean? I mean, I'm sure it's going to affect the entire industry negatively in some way. you know besides i mean not the comedic industry because spirit people really be getting their jokes off about spirit but yeah do you think that frontier is like damn i've been waiting for this moment my whole fucking life somebody somebody's got it somebody has to capitalize on it it feels like a pretty obvious thing to do but maybe the data isn't also why can't you do like i made a diffusion line joke but why can't there be

mark jacobs but dealt like why can't delta just do the little you know the lower level shit too because i think that i i i know i i agree i think it's i mean they're already giving us paper plates in the lounge so what's next y'all once they do main basic why don't you just go main spirit you know what i mean make it even cheaper you got a board you got a board while the plane's taking off it's kind of a it's got i saw main spirit open for turning point brooklyn 89 it's gotta be It should be the cheapest ticket.

It's a race to board last. You know what I mean? It's 10 people. They're sprinting. Whoever doesn't make it doesn't make it. Buying a ticket doesn't guarantee a seat. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. So you mean like a seat number? No, no. You have to race for it. What's the movie where they went to the island and they realized they were getting hunted? You know what I'm saying? You're like the people were hunting you with iced tea. That's what this could be. It could be that kind of vibe where it's like you are.

You're talking about The Hunger Games? It's not The Hunger Games. No, it was a movie. It was like a 90s movie where they went to an island and then half the people realized they were. being hunted and the other half were doing the hunting. Right, right, right. That was... Most Dangerous Game. The Most Dangerous Game, yeah. One of Katie's texts brought it up this week and I was like, oh yeah, actually a movie I've seen. One of the 11 flicks I've actually caught, Most Dangerous Game. Do you think there's any man out there that's not going to be forced to see The Devil Wears Prada 2?

Is there any man that can avoid it? I was thinking about this because when we were on the plane, carolyn texted me like damn they got withering heights on here and i was i was reminded of when that came out and she mentioned you know wanting to see it and i was like that is that's all you and your girls like yeah i am not going to be in the theater with you guys gooning out for an hour and a half um i'm scraped but then devil where the product comes around and that seems a little more i'm able to include my bisexual partner

in this matter yeah no i think so too like if i was like a like a jason kelsey type then nah leave me at home but since like i'm kind of t it's gonna be fine if i was jason kelsey type i mean i don't care about seeing it at all But I feel like I don't remember the first one. I don't remember anything about it. Like, I'm sure I've seen it. It doesn't matter if you don't remember the first one. But people are trying to say it's like, oh, it's actually a real cutting look at the dying media industry.

I'm like, is it, though? Like, we'll see about that. I mean, I think you guys want to make it. I think people want it to be good so bad that it's going to be good. like the performance you know what i mean no one no one that thinks it's going to be chinatown or whatever like it's you're you're the base level for it is like sloppy no but i think it's going to be a dumb thing no i think people think it's going to be like actually or it's that i've heard some chatter like actually it's very cutting and intelligent take on the downfall of media you know which is okay i i'm sure if they can sneak that in it's like putting spinach in dessert you know if they can if they can fit it in because this shit is not yeah if that's for people who like watching takes more than watching films well that's everybody so i don't know what i don't know what they're going to do about all that now fellow lovers of cinema They get it, okay?

Check me out on Letterboxd. It's going to do fucking numbers, that's for sure. Yeah, I mainly want to see how much of a fag-sent BJ Novak does. I saw him. Or if he keeps it straight. I saw him the other night. I was like, how much are you in this movie? And he was like, more than you would think. Yeah, I think he's getting it more than we would think. Well, he's like a Bezos. He's like an evil billionaire. is his character, which is pretty fun to do. I feel like that's a great...

BJ needs to play only villains for the rest of his career. I know. Write children's books and be a villain is a nice dichotomy of a career. That's like a really cool... Get you a girl who can do both. That's a real cool one-two punch. But yeah, I'm sure I'll see it eventually. It feels like something new. Go to the theater to see that and get your fake Birkin popcorn bag. It's a little... It's just a lot. It's just a lot. But I saw that Marty Supreme's on the plane too now already, which seems...

seems fast it does seem fast but Wuthering Heights is much more recent but it's a different I mean it's a different kind of movie I guess it's just interesting because like it went from being sex sells to having a take and an opinion and thoughts on this thing sells better you know like before it'd be like hey we got two really hot people Margot Robbie and fucking this australian hunk and they're just gonna like kind of finger each other for two hours that would be lines around the corner in the 80s and 90s you know that's star wars yeah but now it's like but the fact that nobody needed to have a take about it because not you know nothing happens hot people are hot but when it's like i need to know what the take is on you know the taylor swift documentary or devil wears like once it gets into that thing where It's like you feel left out and you're not a part of the zeitgeist if you don't have a take on it.

No, it's true. You got to participate. And even if you, I mean, you could just go on Letterboxd and kind of compile a take. You know what I'm saying? If you're a gold member. And just take a little from column A, a little from column B, and there you go. You got it. Repackage it. I pay a little more, but it's worth it for me. Yeah, it's super worth it. All right. Well, look. How long gone? Jason, I know you're wearing your Gap Victoria Beckham hoodie right now over there, and I hope you're getting a lot of compliments on it.

I saw a couple. Oh, my God. I forgot. We were taking our Sunday morning stroll literally through the garden, and I see this guy. He's in a tour group with the person holding the little flag, and everyone has a little headset. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This guy, he looks like he's from London, British-looking guy. full head and face tats you know when people have the like gargoyle horns on top of the head you know like just look like a mean guy menacing character but he had like the skinny kind of like you know jeans with the holes in them like like fake Amiri's kind of jeans and then you know like the Louboutin white sneakers and then on top Stranger Things flannel like my man has killed people

Stranger Things flannel? My man has instructed his dog to kill a person and he's got the Stranger Things flannel and it was crispy. Oh, he got it pressed with his Ben Davis. That's fly, bro. I kind of think he got fly. I mean, I think that if you look like that and you scare people, you know that maybe you got to tone it down a notch. You can't wear your creepers and your Doc Martens with white laces and your fucking Fred Perry. Don't wear the jujitsu studio merch. Don't draw any more attention to the cauliflower ear.

Yeah, you're not able to wear your Smith & Wesson vintage tee, you know, to the garden. Yeah, your whites only boxing gym. Does that get a little more palatable? No, no, no. We're full. We're full. No, no. The Stranger Things flannel is a little more palatable for the audience in the garden. I don't know. My kid got me into it. He would send me tapes in jail, and I just, I don't know. I got hooked on it. It's one of those shows where if you're in jail, it's so good. It hits harder.

It feels like a good... The only way I would watch Stranger Things is if I was in jail. That's a... It's like watching Hamnet on a plane. The only way, right? It's the only way that fucking thing goes down, brother. Only way. All right. How long gone? Thank you for listening. We'll be back on Tuesday. or whatever, Wednesday, I guess. Oh, yeah. This is for our download of the Met Gala. Yeah, with Lynette, who's joining us again, year two. And we're taking it back for the fellas. I'm going to call it the Met Ball.

There you go. Thank you. Thank you. Put some fucking nuts on this thing for once. You know what I mean? Elegant ball for elegant people only. If I got to look at those fucking heated rivalry guys in their Dolce & Gabbana gowns, we need to put some nuts on this thing. Let's call it the ball. I want to crop his crop top out of my frame. Dude. crop cory story cory story connor story if i have to see this evil i can't see these guys again bro it's it's because i forgot about them and then connor story last night was in the he was literally wearing a cropped denim jacket he was paid by the gap to wear this fit on tv but i was like i forgot about him i really had forgotten the bag i'd forgotten about him and then he's back it'd be so cool to be like hey i'm gonna announce the band on snl isn't that so fun and then your manager's like

I think I can get you $300,000 for this as well. Yeah, well, I mean, imagine being like... How do you feel about crop tops and they both laugh? Do you think he knows... Because Debbie Harry, do you think he knows who Debbie Harry is? Real talk, I don't. Hell no. I don't either. He knows that she's mother, but he has no idea what she does. It's so cool. It's really cool that he's wearing a Gap Victoria Beckham sweatshirt and a crop denim jacket and doesn't know who Debbie Harry is. That's really cool.

He thinks it's pronounced blonde and not blondie. He gets a little confused with the IE at the end. Wait, what? What? Is it like French? Is it like Dublon? I don't know. I just won't say it. I'll just call her Debbie. I just won't say it. You guys, I love old music, like vintage stuff, like blonde. It's like so good. Vintage stuff. I just love old music. I think it's really cool. I really like R&B stuff too. My Nana used to listen to them, I think. Old music. All right. Thank you for listening.

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